Re: NEC-HE-shrine Copies! A Dilemma! MUST READ for all!! Please.
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From: xxxxxx@microdsi.net
To: nec-he-shrine
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 4:58 PM
Subject: NEC-HE-shrine Copies! A Dilemma! MUST READ for all!! Please.
Look, the way I feel about it is like this: Yes I agree that this particular game is an exception to the no CDR rule that I steadfastly stand by for the reasons you have just described. Yeah, you are always going to have unscrupulous people out there that are going to try & make a buck in whatever way they can, & U & I R never going to stop that person from doing what they want. Like you said, NEC & Sega obviously could not resolve their issues, & us PCE fans got screwed (on top of that we were teased for years) so since the game was a complete wash, I dont see any harm here. By the same token, if they would have released the damned thing, & even asked some outrageous price for it, I would have been the 1st person to have purchased a copy, but that never happened.
So, I think we allneed to agree and swear on our mothers names thatwe will not post this on DEFINTIELY any auction site, or anyother BBS's.
This may be a bit to read, but please read on.
Personally,
I would never copy this game for profit. If is not my motive.
However, I ALREADY have several people not on the list who have heard of "rumors"
and wanted to know how much a copy is to buy... As in WAREZ copies... :-(
That is why I think we should have a cut off date, and then take the whole thing private.
Perhaps a non listed forum to be created. (TABO?)
As CD-ROM is NOT a secure format, perhaps it is naive to think that
a copy would NEVER get into circulation, and be sold like sapphire is.....
$20 a burn.
We have two choices really:
RELEASE PUBLICLY TO ALL
So that all can get it, and it's not sold as a pirate CDR.
(Would you have someone in italy pay $400+ for it, like we may have to?)
RELEASE TO A FEW
Be elitist, and eventually have it get out to pirates,
who will sell it at profit, like sapphire.....
I think we need to be frank.
We are buying a PIRATE copy from a Japanese CDR dealer.
Or a STOLEN real copy.
Either way, we have passed beyond the legal issue,
and we have to deal with our hang-ups about it being
in General circulation.
Lets face it, if it was a legal deal all along, every copy would have been destroyed.
Someone along the way wanted this game to GET OUT.
So, lets get our copy, and then publicly release it, and SHUT THE PIRATES DOWN.
Before they have a chance.
There is no loss of profit here, as the game was never released.
NEC has long written off the losses in making the game.
Kevin
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MUST READ for all!! Please.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Look, the way I feel about it is like this: Yes I
agree that this particular game is an exception to the no CDR rule that I
steadfastly stand by for the reasons you have just described. Yeah, you are
always going to have unscrupulous people out there that are going to try &
make a buck in whatever way they can, & U & I R never going to stop
that person from doing what they want. Like you said, NEC & Sega obviously
could not resolve their issues, & us PCE fans got screwed (on top of that
we were teased for years) so since the game was a complete wash, I dont see
any harm here. By the same token, if they would have released the damned
thing, & even asked some outrageous price for it, I would have been the
1st person to have purchased a copy, but that never
happened.<BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1> So, I think we all</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
classQ6161721-06072000><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1>need to agree and swear on our mothers names
that</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN classQ6161721-06072000><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>we will not post this on
DEFINTIELY any auction site, or any</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
classQ6161721-06072000><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1>other BBS's.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>This may be a bit to
read, but please read on.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1>Personally,</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>I would never copy this
game for profit. If is not my motive.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>However, I ALREADY have several
people not on the list who have heard of "rumors"</FONT></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>and wanted to know how
much a copy is to buy... As in WAREZ copies... :-(</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>That is why I think we
should have a cut off date, and then take the whole thing
private.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1>Perhaps a non listed forum to be created.
(TABO?)</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>As CD-ROM is NOT a
secure format, perhaps it is naive to think that</FONT></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>a copy would NEVER get
into circulation, and be sold like sapphire is.....</FONT></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>$20 a
burn.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>We have two choices
really:</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>RELEASE PUBLICLY TO
ALL</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1>So that all can get it, and it's not sold as a pirate
CDR.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1>(Would you have someone in italy pay $400+ for it, like we may have
to?)</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>RELEASE TO A
FEW</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1>Be elitist, and eventually have it get out to
pirates,</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1>who will sell it at profit, like
sapphire.....</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>I think we need to be
frank.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#ff0000><FONT
size=-1>We are buying a PIRATE copy from a Japanese CDR
dealer.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#009900><FONT
size=-1>Or a STOLEN real copy.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Either way, we have
passed <U>beyond the legal issue</U>,</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>and we have to deal with our
hang-ups about it being</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>in General circulation.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Lets face it, if it was
a legal deal all along, every copy would have been
destroyed.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><I><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Someone along the way wanted this game to GET
OUT.</FONT></FONT></FONT></I><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>So, lets get our copy,
and then publicly release it, and SHUT THE PIRATES DOWN.</FONT></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Before they have a
chance.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1><U>There is no loss of
profit here</U>, as the game was never released.</FONT></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>NEC has long written
off the losses in making the game.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT> <FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1>Kevin</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
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