HNB has 8 separate overlays, the main game is really close to the 256K
limit (so close in fact that at one point some code clean up had to be done
to prevent it from going over). All combined, the overlays are just under
the 8 megabit limit that your standard HuCard has. Now keep in mind that
some of this is the non-SCD card warning, and some of this is overhead that
would be present in every overlay, but not needed for a ROM image, There
are also a few hidden things (I've said too much) that could be removed.
In exchange, you'd have to add chiptune music to replace the CD tunes.
So, yes, it could be done with HNB to create an under 1 megabit version of
the game suitable for HuCard/ROM/whatever.
-bt
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Seavey <xxxxxx@optonline.net> wrote:
> I would imagine something like that would have a “minimum order” too, just
> like the SCD runs do. I wonder what that minimum would be, how much
> prototypes would cost for testing, etc etc. As cool as it would be, what
> I’ve come to realize in talking with some folks recently is that there are
> too few people who “support developers” and buy games at full price or
> games they like the concept of but have no realistic time/chance of
> actually playing. Most folks wait for a sale at Walmart or simply pass up
> anything but Madden and Call of Duty. Given the cost of HuCard type
> production, which I’m guessing is high, and taking into account the size of
> the audience – then factor in how many people would actually buy a TG16
> game for $60+ (especially if they already bought the SCD version) and you
> have a losing scenario financially.
>
>
>
> I think it would be super-cool to see it done, but I don’t know that even
> on this list we could gather enough support to make it practical, and those
> on this list are the most hard-core fans J
>
>
>
> What about those HuCards that allow you to put a bunch of ROMs on one
> card? I picked mine up when a lister years ago made a bulk order. As I
> don’t have many ROMs I don’t use it much but something like that would let
> you play a game on an Express if it were in HuCard size/format without the
> expense of producing them as an official HuCard title.
>
>
>
> @BT – music aside, could the game code fit into a HuCard-sized ROM that
> would work in a setup like this? I don’t know how you’d make money on that
> yet but I’m just curious if it is technically possible?
>
>
>
> Matt (aka Landis)
>
>
>
> *From:* xxxxxx@gmail.com [mailto:xxxxxx@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *bt
> garner
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 07, 2014 6:49 PM
> *To:* xxxxxx@link.st
> *Subject:* Fwd: [Turbo-List] Hypernova Blast Shipped
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, I think it boils down to simple economics. Look at the 2 most
> recent PCE releases. Atlantean was recently released on a custom built
> HuCard format, price is $60. HNB on SCD sells for half that. Now think
> about hardware, how many TG-16s and Duos are out there that are still
> functioning (and hooked up)? Those are the only machines that can play a
> HuCard game. Whereas an SCD can be played in any emulator or Duo (yeah, I
> know, no TG-16s for that). Then you have the piracy issue. If you
> released a PCE game on a format that could easily be uploaded, it will be
> uploaded (I have no doubt that HNB will be uploaded at some point too).
>
> I am not saying it can't happen, but it just seems very unlikely that
> anyone would invest the time needed for a PCE release, then do what they
> can to not be able to recover the costs (and by costs I mean the costs of
> the product, that is not including the development costs).
>
> -bt
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Steve <xxxxxx@craftsathome.net> wrote:
>
>
> I understand the ease and utility of using CD as a distribution medium,
> and also the flexibility in background music that a CD affords to a game.
> However, in these days of micro/mini SD cards, would it be "worth it" to
> distribute games on some kind of pseudo-Hucards with an SD card baked in? I
> would love to play new games on my Express as well as my Duo.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Sent from my Intellivision keyboard component.
>
>
>
> > On Sep 7, 2014, at 3:14 PM, bt garner <xxxxxx@mindrec.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yo guys - the first batch of HNB CDs
>
> [snip]
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